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amsterdam red light district dal diario di net wixon
Dal diario di netwixon ecco per voi una sorta di "guida" al uso corretto e indiscriminato del noto quartiere a
luci rosse di amsterdam.....
Lasciatemi innazitutto divagare un attimo sull'argomento per rendere giustizia a una città , Amsterdam che ha
molto da offrire aldilà delle droghe e del sesso.
Persino un depravato come me è rimasto incantato davanti ad alcuni quadri di van ghog, davanti ad alcuni
paesaggi, innanzi alle assurde costruzioni che fanno sembarre il centro storico della città una sorta di
giocattolo.... un piccolo capolavoro di stile architettonico.... un posto dall'atmosfera incredibile....un mix
di cultura, trasgressione, civiltà , storia.... un fazzoletto di terreno che meriterebbe assolutamente di essere
visto... a prescindere dai divertimenti sopraelencati.
Ma torniamo al red light district...
Situtato nei pressi della stazione, il quartiere a luci rosse di amsterdam, si estende lungo 3 canali
principali,abbracciando le piccole traverse circostanti.
LE principali attrazioni di queste stradine, a parte i soliti coffe shop, ristoranti e alberghi sono i sexy
shop, i locali di strip tease e live show e le famose "vetrine" che ospitano le prostitute.
Vediamoli nell 'ordine..
1) i sexy shop: sono di una noia mortale, ci trovate le solite stronzate che trovate anche qui in italia, per di
più a prezzi ancora più alti.CArine le magliette per i turisti che raffigurano il red light district... ma in
sostanza, visto uno li avete visti tutti... inutile soffermarsi oltre....
2) live show .Casa Rosso è praticamente l'unico incontrastato offerente di spettacoli dal vivo.Diverse Coppie
si alternano sul paclo offrendo esibizioni di sesso completo dal vivo senza alcuna protezione.Le ragazze sono
quasi sempre bellissime e le scene sono convincenti.Forse un po freddine ma interessanti.IL prezzo medio per
vedere gli spettacoli si aggira tra i 15 e i 30 euro.Non è obbligatorio consumare, ma purtroppo le ragazze non
intrattengono il pubblico in alcun modo, è come guardare un film dal vivo.... eccitante i primi 5 minuti....
noioso dopo appena mezz'ora....a conti fatti la cifrà vale la pena di appagare la propria curiosità .. ma niente
altro..
3) Strip tease.Vari locali sono dedicati allo strip tease e alla lap dance.La qualità degli spettacoli è
altissima.LE ragazze sono sempre belle e bravissime i loro spettacoli sono coreograficamente eccellenti,
purtroppo anche qui il rapporto conm il pubblico è banale....niente sesso con gli spettatori, i più fortunati
possono solo toccare o essere un po sballottati dalle girls.... per il resto nisba.Si puó offrire da bere alle
ragazze... dal solito coktail al costosissimo champagne....Le ragazze una volta al tavolo propongono uno
spettacolo privato.. ma ... anche qui niente.... le ragazze ci tengono a precisare che non si fa sesso nel
privè.... nemmeno pagando un extra.. per quello ci sono le ragazze in vetrina....Deludente anche questo
passaggio una volta visto uno spettacolo non avrete voglia di ritornarci... per lo meno non prima di aver
consumato qualcosa di più verace.... Andiamo quindi al punto forte del red light district....
4) le vetrine.Le vetrine sono in realta delle porte di vetro dietro le quali si mettono in mostra le prostitute
di amsterdam.Luci colorate di rosso e fluo rendono queste vetrine belle e coreografiche....l'atmosfera sembra
più quella di una discoteca che non di un bordello.Fiumi di persone (alcunio ridotti praticamente a zombie da
droghe e alcool) vaganoper i canali e spesso si soffermano a guardare le ragazze, alcune veramente bellissime.
Esiste un comitato, una specie di sindacato che determina acune regole che le ragazze devono o meglio dovrebbero
seguire.Esiste anche una specie di tour guidato, che narra la storia del quartiere a luci rosse e alcune regole
da seguire.... una palla mostruosa....In realtà le storie più interessanti ve le raccontano le ragazze stesse o
altri turisti che hanno gia usufruti dei servizi.
Il prezzo medio stabilito è di 50 euro per 15-20 minuti, ma vi accorgerete presto che è tutta una farsa, poiche
ogni ragazza si vende al prezzo che vuole e si attiene a regole personali che non stanno scritte da nessuna
parte.Alcuni loschi individui ronzano agli angoli delle strade o a volte addirittura soggiornano dentro le
"casette" sono i magnacci locali.Persone che curano la sicurezza e gli interessi delle ragazze, sicuramente non
gratuitamente qualcuno di loro a volta "esorta" le ragazze stesse a stare li fino a tardi, altri le
accompagnana... insomma se credete che ad amsterdam non esista lo "sfruttamento" della prostituzione vi
sbagliate alla grande. L'affito della vetrina costa da 100 a 200 euro al giorno per 8 ore..... un costo
sicuramente ammortizzabile..... Ma torniamo alle ragazze....
Ne trovate circa un centinaio di nazionalita diversa più o meno la metà sono donne veramente attraenti ci sono
anche dei cessi (che di solito si svendono) e qualche trans...
Le ragazze sono tutte gentili (a differenza dei clienti) e parlano tutte un inglese abbastanza corretto.
La prima cosa da fare, una volta dentro, è chiarire immediatamente cosa si vuole fare e a che prezzo.Non tutte
sono disposte a farsi baciare leccare o a praticare il sesso anale.In linea di massima aumentando il budget le
ragazze tendono a sciogliersi...ma alcune (spesso le + belle) non si lasciano corrompere a nessuna cifra.Il
rapporto è sempre protetto da preservativo, acnhe durante il sesso orale, è quasi impossibile ottenere anche
solo una pompa senza protezione....DAI 50 euro iniziali è facile raddoppiare o triplicare la spesa , tuttavia,
le ragazze ci sanno fare e alcune sono veramente belle.Tra i migliori affari, ad amsterdam spiccano le
sudamericane.Alcune sono donne bellissime,spesso sono tirate di coca, iperattive e disponibili, pagando la
giusta cifra, più o meno a tutto anal compreso.Alcune di loro danno persino l'impressione di divertirsi ,dando
una partecipazione sessuale veramente degna di nota.Da evitare come la peste le ragazze locali.LE superfighe
olandesi snobbano i turisti, odiano i fumatori.... meglio le ragazze dell'est (polonia, ungheria) anche se sono
difficili da identificare (le bionde si somigliano un po tutte) e sono in minoranza...
A conti fatti... con circa 100-150 euro è possibile farsi una ottima scopata, abbastanza sicura con una figa
degna di nota... Se tornate dalla stessa ragazza, il feeling migliora, li al red light si tende per lo più a
"girare" le varie ragazze , tornare dalla stessa più volte migliora ulteriormente il divertimento.ULtima nota,
le ragazze non vogliono assolutamente farsi fotografare (neanche pagando!)e quasi mai rilasciano i loro
cellulari, sono tuttavia disposte a seguirvi in albergo (pagando a ore).Solo una di loro si è lasciata
fotografare , sono riuscito a fare qualche foto di nascosto ma con risultati poco eclatanti.
In ultima analisi, prestate attenzione quando girate per il quartiere rosso, è pieno di spacciatori,
elemosinatori (non mi viene il termine sono i rompiballe che vi chiedono un euro!), gente ubriaca stonata tirata
e strafatta, io giravo li allegramente da solo ma consiglio vivamente di muoversi in gruppo... sopratutto dopo
la la mezzanotte.
Ciao e buon divertimento
luci rosse di amsterdam.....
Lasciatemi innazitutto divagare un attimo sull'argomento per rendere giustizia a una città , Amsterdam che ha
molto da offrire aldilà delle droghe e del sesso.
Persino un depravato come me è rimasto incantato davanti ad alcuni quadri di van ghog, davanti ad alcuni
paesaggi, innanzi alle assurde costruzioni che fanno sembarre il centro storico della città una sorta di
giocattolo.... un piccolo capolavoro di stile architettonico.... un posto dall'atmosfera incredibile....un mix
di cultura, trasgressione, civiltà , storia.... un fazzoletto di terreno che meriterebbe assolutamente di essere
visto... a prescindere dai divertimenti sopraelencati.
Ma torniamo al red light district...
Situtato nei pressi della stazione, il quartiere a luci rosse di amsterdam, si estende lungo 3 canali
principali,abbracciando le piccole traverse circostanti.
LE principali attrazioni di queste stradine, a parte i soliti coffe shop, ristoranti e alberghi sono i sexy
shop, i locali di strip tease e live show e le famose "vetrine" che ospitano le prostitute.
Vediamoli nell 'ordine..
1) i sexy shop: sono di una noia mortale, ci trovate le solite stronzate che trovate anche qui in italia, per di
più a prezzi ancora più alti.CArine le magliette per i turisti che raffigurano il red light district... ma in
sostanza, visto uno li avete visti tutti... inutile soffermarsi oltre....
2) live show .Casa Rosso è praticamente l'unico incontrastato offerente di spettacoli dal vivo.Diverse Coppie
si alternano sul paclo offrendo esibizioni di sesso completo dal vivo senza alcuna protezione.Le ragazze sono
quasi sempre bellissime e le scene sono convincenti.Forse un po freddine ma interessanti.IL prezzo medio per
vedere gli spettacoli si aggira tra i 15 e i 30 euro.Non è obbligatorio consumare, ma purtroppo le ragazze non
intrattengono il pubblico in alcun modo, è come guardare un film dal vivo.... eccitante i primi 5 minuti....
noioso dopo appena mezz'ora....a conti fatti la cifrà vale la pena di appagare la propria curiosità .. ma niente
altro..
3) Strip tease.Vari locali sono dedicati allo strip tease e alla lap dance.La qualità degli spettacoli è
altissima.LE ragazze sono sempre belle e bravissime i loro spettacoli sono coreograficamente eccellenti,
purtroppo anche qui il rapporto conm il pubblico è banale....niente sesso con gli spettatori, i più fortunati
possono solo toccare o essere un po sballottati dalle girls.... per il resto nisba.Si puó offrire da bere alle
ragazze... dal solito coktail al costosissimo champagne....Le ragazze una volta al tavolo propongono uno
spettacolo privato.. ma ... anche qui niente.... le ragazze ci tengono a precisare che non si fa sesso nel
privè.... nemmeno pagando un extra.. per quello ci sono le ragazze in vetrina....Deludente anche questo
passaggio una volta visto uno spettacolo non avrete voglia di ritornarci... per lo meno non prima di aver
consumato qualcosa di più verace.... Andiamo quindi al punto forte del red light district....
4) le vetrine.Le vetrine sono in realta delle porte di vetro dietro le quali si mettono in mostra le prostitute
di amsterdam.Luci colorate di rosso e fluo rendono queste vetrine belle e coreografiche....l'atmosfera sembra
più quella di una discoteca che non di un bordello.Fiumi di persone (alcunio ridotti praticamente a zombie da
droghe e alcool) vaganoper i canali e spesso si soffermano a guardare le ragazze, alcune veramente bellissime.
Esiste un comitato, una specie di sindacato che determina acune regole che le ragazze devono o meglio dovrebbero
seguire.Esiste anche una specie di tour guidato, che narra la storia del quartiere a luci rosse e alcune regole
da seguire.... una palla mostruosa....In realtà le storie più interessanti ve le raccontano le ragazze stesse o
altri turisti che hanno gia usufruti dei servizi.
Il prezzo medio stabilito è di 50 euro per 15-20 minuti, ma vi accorgerete presto che è tutta una farsa, poiche
ogni ragazza si vende al prezzo che vuole e si attiene a regole personali che non stanno scritte da nessuna
parte.Alcuni loschi individui ronzano agli angoli delle strade o a volte addirittura soggiornano dentro le
"casette" sono i magnacci locali.Persone che curano la sicurezza e gli interessi delle ragazze, sicuramente non
gratuitamente qualcuno di loro a volta "esorta" le ragazze stesse a stare li fino a tardi, altri le
accompagnana... insomma se credete che ad amsterdam non esista lo "sfruttamento" della prostituzione vi
sbagliate alla grande. L'affito della vetrina costa da 100 a 200 euro al giorno per 8 ore..... un costo
sicuramente ammortizzabile..... Ma torniamo alle ragazze....
Ne trovate circa un centinaio di nazionalita diversa più o meno la metà sono donne veramente attraenti ci sono
anche dei cessi (che di solito si svendono) e qualche trans...
Le ragazze sono tutte gentili (a differenza dei clienti) e parlano tutte un inglese abbastanza corretto.
La prima cosa da fare, una volta dentro, è chiarire immediatamente cosa si vuole fare e a che prezzo.Non tutte
sono disposte a farsi baciare leccare o a praticare il sesso anale.In linea di massima aumentando il budget le
ragazze tendono a sciogliersi...ma alcune (spesso le + belle) non si lasciano corrompere a nessuna cifra.Il
rapporto è sempre protetto da preservativo, acnhe durante il sesso orale, è quasi impossibile ottenere anche
solo una pompa senza protezione....DAI 50 euro iniziali è facile raddoppiare o triplicare la spesa , tuttavia,
le ragazze ci sanno fare e alcune sono veramente belle.Tra i migliori affari, ad amsterdam spiccano le
sudamericane.Alcune sono donne bellissime,spesso sono tirate di coca, iperattive e disponibili, pagando la
giusta cifra, più o meno a tutto anal compreso.Alcune di loro danno persino l'impressione di divertirsi ,dando
una partecipazione sessuale veramente degna di nota.Da evitare come la peste le ragazze locali.LE superfighe
olandesi snobbano i turisti, odiano i fumatori.... meglio le ragazze dell'est (polonia, ungheria) anche se sono
difficili da identificare (le bionde si somigliano un po tutte) e sono in minoranza...
A conti fatti... con circa 100-150 euro è possibile farsi una ottima scopata, abbastanza sicura con una figa
degna di nota... Se tornate dalla stessa ragazza, il feeling migliora, li al red light si tende per lo più a
"girare" le varie ragazze , tornare dalla stessa più volte migliora ulteriormente il divertimento.ULtima nota,
le ragazze non vogliono assolutamente farsi fotografare (neanche pagando!)e quasi mai rilasciano i loro
cellulari, sono tuttavia disposte a seguirvi in albergo (pagando a ore).Solo una di loro si è lasciata
fotografare , sono riuscito a fare qualche foto di nascosto ma con risultati poco eclatanti.
In ultima analisi, prestate attenzione quando girate per il quartiere rosso, è pieno di spacciatori,
elemosinatori (non mi viene il termine sono i rompiballe che vi chiedono un euro!), gente ubriaca stonata tirata
e strafatta, io giravo li allegramente da solo ma consiglio vivamente di muoversi in gruppo... sopratutto dopo
la la mezzanotte.
Ciao e buon divertimento
Io ci torneró il mese prossimo, come dicevo nell'altro topic, piu per l'atmosfera rilassata della città che per altro, tuttavia i miei bravi giri me li faró. Segnalo solo che i locali non vanno a faighe nel Red Light District ma in un'altra zona piu fuori mano, CuyperStraat, dove secondo tutti i siti che ho trovato, le ragazze sono molto piu belle, economiche e pulite, proprio perchè non hanno nulla a che fare con la massa di turisti del RLD sono molto piu rilassate. Inutile dire che andró a vedere com'è.
quanto dista dal centro? amsteredam è anche pieno di agenzie escort, purtroppo non ho avuto il tempo di contattarne nessuna, per altro il divertimento è anche insito nel gironzolare frastornati per il quartiere... fammi sapere..... fammi sapere anche dove trovare una mappa on line della cita... tipo il nostro virgilio mappe.
Ciao.
Ciao.
mi correggo: il nome preciso è Cuypstraat. E' a sudovest del centro, se non ricordo male...
prova su www.maporama.com per la mappa.
prova su www.maporama.com per la mappa.
Ho trovato questo fantastico forum
http://www.hookers.nl/forum/index.php#2
sulle pro di Amsterdam e dintorni. E' in olandese ma col traduttore di Altavista si riesce a capire piu o meno tutto...
http://www.hookers.nl/forum/index.php#2
sulle pro di Amsterdam e dintorni. E' in olandese ma col traduttore di Altavista si riesce a capire piu o meno tutto...
io ho trovato invece questo articolo... dove per altro parlano della zona da te menzioanta... al cosa assurda è che la prima volta che andai ad amsterdam il nostro albergo era praticamente li vicino.. ma nessuno mi seppe indicare tale zona,....
riporto larticolo..
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Prostitutes in Amsterdam and Holland
Amsterdam is famous for its Red Light District. The Red Light District is best known for the girls working in windows as prostitutes. If you have never heard of this, you can walk down the street in the Red Light District and literally window shop. You will find all kinds of women available to have sex with starting at roughly $40-75 dollars. This only gets you 15-30 minutes, so I hope you're not the romantic type if you plan to make a purchase.
Prostitution in Holland consists of much more than just the window girls. The legalized, regulated, taxed sex industry in Holland is a compromise, much like the coffeeshop system makes a compromise which distinguishes between soft and hard drugs. The Dutch know human behavior and capitalism well enough to know they can't stop prostitution. Instead the have made a place for men with desires to be satiated safely, anonymously, and with minimal risk of physical harm to the women. One of the few good things I could say is that Holland has made pimps into landlords.
In the first sections I present the facts of the situation alongside my moral and compassionate objections to the situation. Then, I abandon my judgement and tell you where the good hookers are. I will describe the prostitutes who work behind the train station and in the backs of cars; prostitutes who come to hotel rooms for paid sex while their driver waits outside; prostitutes in the windows; orgy houses; bordellos; and prostitute shopping malls, of a sort.
Before I begin let me assure you of my lack of carnal knowledge when it comes to prostitutes in Holland and elsewhere. I personally have no sexual experience with prostitutes in Europe, America, or anywhere else. I live in Nevada yet have never been inside the Mustang or any other Ranch. I'm a romantic who feels that there should be some love behind the sexual act -- that makes me different from most men who are titilated by the idea of quickie anonymous sex.
If I would even begin to think of being with a prostitute, I know I would want her around for more than 30 minutes -- I think overnight and into the next morning would be the minumum, and you can buy a car for less money than that would cost. But money is not the issue at all.
A cornerstone of my philosophy is that by participating in the international sex slave trade, I am part of that system. If you think Amsterdam is utopia, please read on. Every continent has its good and bad points. Europe is only more heavenlike that the USA -- it's not heaven itself.
My extensive knowledge of the Dutch prostitute system stems from knowing a friend in Amsterdam who visits the girls between three and five times a week. This person has had prostitutes living with him in his house. He has taken me on tours of Holland where we make stops for him to satisfy his urges. To top it off, he loves to talk about prostitutes and I love to ask questions. I have gone to the various Red Light Districts with him while he selects the girl he wants and then gets what he wants. This man is a perfect gentleman with these women.
In theory I have nothing against prostitution: what two consenting adults do with their sexuality and their money is their own business. Unfortunately the reality is that many prostitutes have at least a little tragedy behind the story of how they got started. Regardless of how a woman gets sucked into this business, once she makes a lot of money and gets to buy nice clothes and send money back to the starving family in Eastern Europe it becomes hard to walk away. Successful prostitutes can easily make $5000 per month and some make much more than this.
I know two practicing prostitutes and one retired prostitute in Holland and have spent time around them at their homes, with their husbands, boyfriends and friends at nice dinners or walking on the beach. The thing most men forget about these women is that when they get off work, they go to a home just like everyone else. Many prostitutes have families, are married, and lead a quite normal life. They just go to work every day like you do -- they just make more money and make a more serious tradeoff than just wearing a tie.
I will discuss the specifics of the sex industry later, but first I would like to explain what I meant about the business being a bit tragic. One girl I know in Amsterdam works for an escort service, which is the classiest way to be with a prostitute. In the country she comes from she is trained to work as a nurse in a hospital. Her monthly wage is the equivalent of $25, and typically the government doesn't have the money to pay. This woman is smart, nice, classy and of course very sexy. She doesn't like the work she does, but she gets to send money back home to her family.
The mistake most Americans males make is to think all these girls are out there for kicks or because they like sex so much. I believe that few women exist who can have sex with 15-20 men per day and not make some kind of tradeoff. Often these girls don't do drugs until they start working. Cocaine is an effective way to numb your body and mind and get through the workday. It's just hard to stop using coke when you have excessive money in your pocket.
Continuing the sad story, let's realize that Amsterdam has a large population of illegal immigrants from Northern Africa, South America and the former Dutch colonies in the Caribbean and Pacific Ocean. Many women who come in from these countries are pressed into prostitution as modern-day indentured slaves. Only a very naive person doesn't realize that this planet has a flourishing sex slave trade.
I made mention of women coming into Amsterdam from Africa, Asia and the Carribean. These girls are usually illegal immigrants. Until recently, they were allowed to work in the windows alongside women who come from within Europe. However the European government is putting pressure on all industry to stop using illegal labor as a way of protecting European workers from losing their jobs to immigrants. This worker protection naturally applies to the legalized prostitutes.
Another friend of mine in Amsterdam tells me that the police have begun running off and/or arresting illegal sex workers. He goes on to say that these police only work until midnight, so if you like the imported girls you have to wait until one or two o'clock in the morning for them to show up at work.
Until this point, I have been presenting the facts of prostitution to show why my moral compassion leads me to disdain the condition of reality that puts these women in a position to make this career choice. I know that most men treat these women in a cheap and degrading manner and these men see this as the natural order of things.
We must not forget that these sex objects are humans too and don't always like the position they are in. When I discuss prostitution in the United States with women they normally show shock and disdain at the very idea of having sex for money. Despite all the problems women face in the United States, they have it easy compared to women coming from poverty-stricken second and third world countries. Excepting those living in poverty, the majority of Americans are not feeling the stress of living in collapsing economies where the next meal is questionable and the kids are hungry. An attractive woman in that position finds it easy to make a sacrifice and sell her body.
Although prostitution in Amsterdam and Holland is not as utopian as most believe, there is an upside. As with other social issues, the Dutch have showed their practicality in controlling a situation instead of criminalizing it. The society realizes that men want to pay for sex and women want to take their money: prostitution will happen no matter what.
While Amsterdam has a seedy reputation, many women I know feel safe walking alone at night in Amsterdam. Amsterdam and Holland have low incidence of rape compared to the United States. I believe that rape is a crime of violence and not sexual need; at the same time if a man with destructive energy can pay a small amount to treat a woman like a sex object, that may reduce his antisocial need to be violent towards women. This is twisted logic, but it works. It just means that prostitutes are sometimes giving away emotional as well as physical energy, at an unmeasurable cost.
When you consider legal prostitution in Holland and other illegal but tolerated prostitution in the rest of Europe, you can see that the environment for these women is much safer than in America. We of the United States are culturally taught to see things in black and white and base our stances on the principles and the law instead of the practicality of a situation. The older European culture applies more common sense to the organization of prostitution.
In the United State prostitution is illegal in most states. Nevada is the only state I know of with legalized brothels. In other states you can still find brothels, but they are illegal and therefore low key. An American friend of mine who visits these "ranches" in Colorado finds a group of Korean girls waiting to service him. One time he gloated that the prostitute didn't make him use a condom.
If you can find this type of unsafe practices out on the "ranch," imagine what a risky business walking the streets in a large American city is. The police punish the prostitutes, not the customers. The only organization is the pimp system, and pimps do not have a reputation for being nice guys. Add to that the crazies and wackos who kill prostitutes for fun, the drugs and the isolation, and you have a dangerous career choice.
By legalizing prostitution the Dutch have created a compromise that makes for safety. Legitimate prostitutes in Holland face almost no physical safety issues. They have panic buttons in their booths, and big burly bouncers are always nearby to help out if there's a problem. Dutch hookers will always make you use a condom unless you meet them behind the train station, in which case they are probably too drugged out to work in the windows.
The street hookers in Amsterdam are truly desperate women who run huge risks of disease both for themselves and their clients. This unregulated prostitution is illegal, and I don't really understand why a man would use them when much cleaner girls are available through so many other methods. Again, there's quite a bit of tragedy in this business. If you use hookers remember that you are not participating in a perfect system. It's a mean world out there.
Now what you've been waiting for: How to Pay for Sex in Holland
For those readers who dislike my moralizing, this is where the good stuff begins. From now on I set aside my moral reservations that prevent me from using prostitutes. I will describe in detail how and where to find hookers, whores, call girls, or whatever you wish to call them.
These girls will not typically do everthing and anything. Many refuse to have anal sex, so if that's what you want you'll have to ask around a bit. There are some prostitutes who will do anything for money, so even if your desires border on the bizarre or violent, you will find some hooker doing enough drugs to get through whatever you might have in mind.
There are limits and there are some really sick people out there though. One prostitute I know told me that a man came to her and asked her to CUT his PENIS off. HE WAS SERIOUS!!! She said no, but sent him to a friend who she thought might do the task. The friend considered it, as the man was offering about $5,000 for this. Luckily the friend decided against it and this man's sick fantasy was not sated by anyone I knew. I can tolerate people who are into all kinds of wierd things, but this story truly was bizarre.
Because the Amsterdam window girls are the best known Dutch prostitutes, I will describe their system before explaining all the other ways to find paid sex in Holland. It's important to understand that window girls pay rent and work as independent businesswomen. They are not working to give the house a percentage. This means that when you ask a window girl "how much" you are dealing with the boss and you can negotiate directly. If you see a woman you like but she wants too much, there are plenty of other women out there to take your money.
When you arrive in the Red Light District, the window girls are usually located down narrow alleys. The windows always have blue or red neon outlines. If the window curtains are closed this means the woman is busy with a customer. If the curtains are open
but the booth is empty then no one is working there. When you see the curtains open and a woman wearing a bra and panties or a negligee you know she is available.
You can stand outside the window and look as long as you wish. Some women appear more intererested in their jobs than others. I have seen the prostitutes occupying their time with activities like talking with other workers, watching TV or knitting. Some of these women obviously look like they don't enjoy their jobs -- these are the women to avoid. Others will beckon you and act desperate. I would avoid these too.
You want to find a woman with a genuine smile who looks like she wants you. Once you make your choice, look for the door that leads to her booth. Once inside, you should talk a little bit to see what she is like. Again, there are so many choices in the Red Light District that you can afford to be picky.
You should not be shy about discussing pricing and explaining what services you desire. You can come right out and say, "can I have a suck and fuck for 75 guilders, please?" You will certainly not embarass the woman. If you have more extreme desires like anal sex, bondage or other sexual deviations, then ask about this up front.
Treat these women like humans, bring flowers or a bottle of wine to drink, invite them out to dinner and ask their friends along too. While some prostitutes will get angry with you for asking where they come from, others are very nice and friendly and will be your friend as well as your paid sex partner. You might offer to pay for dinner too. If one likes you enough she might take you home and do you for free.
AMSTERDAM RED LIGHT DISTRICT RULES AND WARNINGS
You must keep in mind that the Red Light District in Amsterdam is THE sleazy part of town. Crowds of aggresive immigrant drug dealers will try to sell you drugs. If you don't buy, they may mug you. I am not being paranoid -- this really happens despite the fact that most tourists think Amsterdam is perfectly safe. Never buy drugs from a street dealer. Don't even stop or talk to them, just keep walking. Also, it's wise to avoid the Red Light District in the late hours and early mornings.
The second warning in the Red Light District is DON'T take pictures. If you are noticed a big guy will come out and separate you from your camera. Remember that these women usually lead respectable lives and have parents that care about them. Respect their privacy, respect their choice, and leave the camera in the bag in the Red Light District.
My third warning is that you should only carry enough cash for the transaction. Also, check your passport in at your hotel's safe deposit box and carry a copy instead. When paying for window sex you will be naked and vulnerable. There is virtually no physical danger to you, and it's very unlikely you would be robbed. At the same time you should be ready for anything in Amsterdam, so be prudent.
The last warning about the Red Light District is to be careful what you are buying. There are men who dress like women and work in the windows. Sometimes it's hard to tell that they are men until you get the pants off. Customers who get this big surprise can be traumatized by knowing that a man gave them a blowjob before taking his panties off and proving he's not a she. This problem occurs enough that the Amsterdam police are including a warning about she-male prostitutes in a safety booklet they are producing.
WINDOW GIRLS ELSEWHERE IN OUT OF AMSTERDAM
Again, the Red Light District is the seediest part of Amsterdam and is not totally safe late at night. Further, the best prostitutes are not there. Most or the larger towns in Holland have a red light district. Haarlem has some very nice looking women, and you will avoid the tourist crowd. Alkmaar also has a nice Red Light District as described later.
Within Amsterdam are several smaller red light districts. The best place to go in Amsterdam to pay for sex is a street named Ruysdaelkade, pronounced rise-dale-ka-de. GET BETTER DIRECTIONS HERE. Here you will find the locals looking for sex. The women are better looking and the danger of the big Red Light District is not present, and prices are better.
ALTERNATIVES TO PUBLIC WINDOW SHOPPING IN AMSTERDAM
Window shopping is only one way to pay for lay. Starting with the riskiest sex available I will mention the street hookers again. I always notice these women working behind the Amsterdam Central Station. These are usually heavy drug addicts who choose to work illegally because they can't work legally. If you want risky no-condom paid sex, this is the place to go.
Recently Amsterdam has begun to deal with the problem of street hookers by designating areas for them to work. They set up tents and partitions big enough to drive a car into. The hookers wait for customers who drive up, make their choice, and drive behind the partitions for privacy. The act takes place in the back of the car, and is only marginally safer than going to the back of the train station. I guess this is the ultimate in drive through service, but I still think the window girls are a much safer choice.
ESCORT SERVICES
Amsterdam offers three more choices to pay for sex that I know of. The best and cleanest way to be with a prostitute is to look in the phone book and call an escort service. These agencies will contact a prostitute who matches your desires and send her to your place of choice, be that your house or your hotel room. These girls are the most expensive way to go, but will certainly guarantee a private and more enjoyable experience. The cost much more than the window girls.
Escorts don't actually keep all the money you give them. While your having fun inside there is a driver outside waiting for the escort. He needs to be paid. Then the escort service takes more than half of the fee, leaving the sex worker with about 35-40% of your money. The best setup would be to know an escort directly and hire her without the agency.
BROTHELS AND CASSA ROSA
I don't know where they are, but Amsterdam also has private brothels. You can go inside and order a drink at the bar while you examine the selection of women. Then you choose and go to a private room for sex. This option is better for those who are embarassed by looking for paid sex in public.
The most kinky orgiastic sex to be had in Amsterdam can be found at Cassa Rosa. A tourist I met said that normally you pay a fee to get into a room of people engaged in orgies, voyeurism, gang-bangs, and other multi-partnet experiences. Cassa Rosa also has live sex shows, though the tourist said the performers looked bored. In his words, "I left with my curiosity satisfied and little else."
One night a week at Cassa Rosa men can pay a much higher price to enter a special night where the house brings prostitutes in. In this case you know you can have anyone you want if there's not a line. Of course all the action at Cassa Rosa carries the risk that any multiple partner sex entails. The people you will be screwing have screwed a lot of other people. Think of it like this -- by having sex with one person there you can implicitly have sex with a whole crowd of people. If this turns you on, this is the place for you.
ALKMAAR SHOPPING MALL AND THE STREETS OF LUXEMBOURG
I just want to mention two more prostitute areas I saw to give an idea of what's out there. One night I was driving around with a friend on the coast near Castricum and Egmond an Zee. On our way back to Amsterdam at 1am, my friend said he wanted to drive through Alkmaar, home of a famous cheese market. My friend was not looking for cheese.
This friend always tries to get me to use prostitutes. I'm not sure why he cares, but he was insistent that I should come look at the girls with him. We went into Alkmaar's red light district and found a shopping mall. There were girls in window on one street, and next to that was a doorway into a series of mazelike hallways. Each hall had windows on either side with women selling themselves. I have to say that most of these women looked extremely bored. Some were sitting there ignoring customers and watching TV.
Another time I stayed in Luxembourg City, in the country of Luxembourg between France, Germany, and Belgium. My first stay in Luxembourg was company sponsored, so I stayed in a very nice hotel near downtown. I did not see anything looking like prostitution in this part of town.
The next time I went on my own dollars I chose a cheaper Mercure hotel just up the street from the train station. As it turns out, just next to the hotel, the stripper bar and the police station was the red light district. There were no women in windows in Luxembourg -- instead there is a tolerated street hooker business. Most of these women were nowhere near as beautiful and clean looking as the window girls in Holland. The all looked rather desperate.
Two friends of mine in Luxembourg were taking me on a driving tour at night when we passed in front of my hotel to see this. Men in cars were creating a small traffic jam by driving very slowly while checking out the goods. Again, I did not find any of these women to be attractive, until the three of us saw a hooker with some nice legs. Unfortunately this hooker also had an Adam's Apple and a 5 o'clock shadow!!!
I was just window shopping for curiosity, but if you plan to buy these products, remember the latin phrase "caveat emptor," "buyer beware."
Good luck looking, and please use a condom! You will at least walk away with your curiosity satisfied.
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Prostitutes in Amsterdam and Holland
Amsterdam is famous for its Red Light District. The Red Light District is best known for the girls working in windows as prostitutes. If you have never heard of this, you can walk down the street in the Red Light District and literally window shop. You will find all kinds of women available to have sex with starting at roughly $40-75 dollars. This only gets you 15-30 minutes, so I hope you're not the romantic type if you plan to make a purchase.
Prostitution in Holland consists of much more than just the window girls. The legalized, regulated, taxed sex industry in Holland is a compromise, much like the coffeeshop system makes a compromise which distinguishes between soft and hard drugs. The Dutch know human behavior and capitalism well enough to know they can't stop prostitution. Instead the have made a place for men with desires to be satiated safely, anonymously, and with minimal risk of physical harm to the women. One of the few good things I could say is that Holland has made pimps into landlords.
In the first sections I present the facts of the situation alongside my moral and compassionate objections to the situation. Then, I abandon my judgement and tell you where the good hookers are. I will describe the prostitutes who work behind the train station and in the backs of cars; prostitutes who come to hotel rooms for paid sex while their driver waits outside; prostitutes in the windows; orgy houses; bordellos; and prostitute shopping malls, of a sort.
Before I begin let me assure you of my lack of carnal knowledge when it comes to prostitutes in Holland and elsewhere. I personally have no sexual experience with prostitutes in Europe, America, or anywhere else. I live in Nevada yet have never been inside the Mustang or any other Ranch. I'm a romantic who feels that there should be some love behind the sexual act -- that makes me different from most men who are titilated by the idea of quickie anonymous sex.
If I would even begin to think of being with a prostitute, I know I would want her around for more than 30 minutes -- I think overnight and into the next morning would be the minumum, and you can buy a car for less money than that would cost. But money is not the issue at all.
A cornerstone of my philosophy is that by participating in the international sex slave trade, I am part of that system. If you think Amsterdam is utopia, please read on. Every continent has its good and bad points. Europe is only more heavenlike that the USA -- it's not heaven itself.
My extensive knowledge of the Dutch prostitute system stems from knowing a friend in Amsterdam who visits the girls between three and five times a week. This person has had prostitutes living with him in his house. He has taken me on tours of Holland where we make stops for him to satisfy his urges. To top it off, he loves to talk about prostitutes and I love to ask questions. I have gone to the various Red Light Districts with him while he selects the girl he wants and then gets what he wants. This man is a perfect gentleman with these women.
In theory I have nothing against prostitution: what two consenting adults do with their sexuality and their money is their own business. Unfortunately the reality is that many prostitutes have at least a little tragedy behind the story of how they got started. Regardless of how a woman gets sucked into this business, once she makes a lot of money and gets to buy nice clothes and send money back to the starving family in Eastern Europe it becomes hard to walk away. Successful prostitutes can easily make $5000 per month and some make much more than this.
I know two practicing prostitutes and one retired prostitute in Holland and have spent time around them at their homes, with their husbands, boyfriends and friends at nice dinners or walking on the beach. The thing most men forget about these women is that when they get off work, they go to a home just like everyone else. Many prostitutes have families, are married, and lead a quite normal life. They just go to work every day like you do -- they just make more money and make a more serious tradeoff than just wearing a tie.
I will discuss the specifics of the sex industry later, but first I would like to explain what I meant about the business being a bit tragic. One girl I know in Amsterdam works for an escort service, which is the classiest way to be with a prostitute. In the country she comes from she is trained to work as a nurse in a hospital. Her monthly wage is the equivalent of $25, and typically the government doesn't have the money to pay. This woman is smart, nice, classy and of course very sexy. She doesn't like the work she does, but she gets to send money back home to her family.
The mistake most Americans males make is to think all these girls are out there for kicks or because they like sex so much. I believe that few women exist who can have sex with 15-20 men per day and not make some kind of tradeoff. Often these girls don't do drugs until they start working. Cocaine is an effective way to numb your body and mind and get through the workday. It's just hard to stop using coke when you have excessive money in your pocket.
Continuing the sad story, let's realize that Amsterdam has a large population of illegal immigrants from Northern Africa, South America and the former Dutch colonies in the Caribbean and Pacific Ocean. Many women who come in from these countries are pressed into prostitution as modern-day indentured slaves. Only a very naive person doesn't realize that this planet has a flourishing sex slave trade.
I made mention of women coming into Amsterdam from Africa, Asia and the Carribean. These girls are usually illegal immigrants. Until recently, they were allowed to work in the windows alongside women who come from within Europe. However the European government is putting pressure on all industry to stop using illegal labor as a way of protecting European workers from losing their jobs to immigrants. This worker protection naturally applies to the legalized prostitutes.
Another friend of mine in Amsterdam tells me that the police have begun running off and/or arresting illegal sex workers. He goes on to say that these police only work until midnight, so if you like the imported girls you have to wait until one or two o'clock in the morning for them to show up at work.
Until this point, I have been presenting the facts of prostitution to show why my moral compassion leads me to disdain the condition of reality that puts these women in a position to make this career choice. I know that most men treat these women in a cheap and degrading manner and these men see this as the natural order of things.
We must not forget that these sex objects are humans too and don't always like the position they are in. When I discuss prostitution in the United States with women they normally show shock and disdain at the very idea of having sex for money. Despite all the problems women face in the United States, they have it easy compared to women coming from poverty-stricken second and third world countries. Excepting those living in poverty, the majority of Americans are not feeling the stress of living in collapsing economies where the next meal is questionable and the kids are hungry. An attractive woman in that position finds it easy to make a sacrifice and sell her body.
Although prostitution in Amsterdam and Holland is not as utopian as most believe, there is an upside. As with other social issues, the Dutch have showed their practicality in controlling a situation instead of criminalizing it. The society realizes that men want to pay for sex and women want to take their money: prostitution will happen no matter what.
While Amsterdam has a seedy reputation, many women I know feel safe walking alone at night in Amsterdam. Amsterdam and Holland have low incidence of rape compared to the United States. I believe that rape is a crime of violence and not sexual need; at the same time if a man with destructive energy can pay a small amount to treat a woman like a sex object, that may reduce his antisocial need to be violent towards women. This is twisted logic, but it works. It just means that prostitutes are sometimes giving away emotional as well as physical energy, at an unmeasurable cost.
When you consider legal prostitution in Holland and other illegal but tolerated prostitution in the rest of Europe, you can see that the environment for these women is much safer than in America. We of the United States are culturally taught to see things in black and white and base our stances on the principles and the law instead of the practicality of a situation. The older European culture applies more common sense to the organization of prostitution.
In the United State prostitution is illegal in most states. Nevada is the only state I know of with legalized brothels. In other states you can still find brothels, but they are illegal and therefore low key. An American friend of mine who visits these "ranches" in Colorado finds a group of Korean girls waiting to service him. One time he gloated that the prostitute didn't make him use a condom.
If you can find this type of unsafe practices out on the "ranch," imagine what a risky business walking the streets in a large American city is. The police punish the prostitutes, not the customers. The only organization is the pimp system, and pimps do not have a reputation for being nice guys. Add to that the crazies and wackos who kill prostitutes for fun, the drugs and the isolation, and you have a dangerous career choice.
By legalizing prostitution the Dutch have created a compromise that makes for safety. Legitimate prostitutes in Holland face almost no physical safety issues. They have panic buttons in their booths, and big burly bouncers are always nearby to help out if there's a problem. Dutch hookers will always make you use a condom unless you meet them behind the train station, in which case they are probably too drugged out to work in the windows.
The street hookers in Amsterdam are truly desperate women who run huge risks of disease both for themselves and their clients. This unregulated prostitution is illegal, and I don't really understand why a man would use them when much cleaner girls are available through so many other methods. Again, there's quite a bit of tragedy in this business. If you use hookers remember that you are not participating in a perfect system. It's a mean world out there.
Now what you've been waiting for: How to Pay for Sex in Holland
For those readers who dislike my moralizing, this is where the good stuff begins. From now on I set aside my moral reservations that prevent me from using prostitutes. I will describe in detail how and where to find hookers, whores, call girls, or whatever you wish to call them.
These girls will not typically do everthing and anything. Many refuse to have anal sex, so if that's what you want you'll have to ask around a bit. There are some prostitutes who will do anything for money, so even if your desires border on the bizarre or violent, you will find some hooker doing enough drugs to get through whatever you might have in mind.
There are limits and there are some really sick people out there though. One prostitute I know told me that a man came to her and asked her to CUT his PENIS off. HE WAS SERIOUS!!! She said no, but sent him to a friend who she thought might do the task. The friend considered it, as the man was offering about $5,000 for this. Luckily the friend decided against it and this man's sick fantasy was not sated by anyone I knew. I can tolerate people who are into all kinds of wierd things, but this story truly was bizarre.
Because the Amsterdam window girls are the best known Dutch prostitutes, I will describe their system before explaining all the other ways to find paid sex in Holland. It's important to understand that window girls pay rent and work as independent businesswomen. They are not working to give the house a percentage. This means that when you ask a window girl "how much" you are dealing with the boss and you can negotiate directly. If you see a woman you like but she wants too much, there are plenty of other women out there to take your money.
When you arrive in the Red Light District, the window girls are usually located down narrow alleys. The windows always have blue or red neon outlines. If the window curtains are closed this means the woman is busy with a customer. If the curtains are open
but the booth is empty then no one is working there. When you see the curtains open and a woman wearing a bra and panties or a negligee you know she is available.
You can stand outside the window and look as long as you wish. Some women appear more intererested in their jobs than others. I have seen the prostitutes occupying their time with activities like talking with other workers, watching TV or knitting. Some of these women obviously look like they don't enjoy their jobs -- these are the women to avoid. Others will beckon you and act desperate. I would avoid these too.
You want to find a woman with a genuine smile who looks like she wants you. Once you make your choice, look for the door that leads to her booth. Once inside, you should talk a little bit to see what she is like. Again, there are so many choices in the Red Light District that you can afford to be picky.
You should not be shy about discussing pricing and explaining what services you desire. You can come right out and say, "can I have a suck and fuck for 75 guilders, please?" You will certainly not embarass the woman. If you have more extreme desires like anal sex, bondage or other sexual deviations, then ask about this up front.
Treat these women like humans, bring flowers or a bottle of wine to drink, invite them out to dinner and ask their friends along too. While some prostitutes will get angry with you for asking where they come from, others are very nice and friendly and will be your friend as well as your paid sex partner. You might offer to pay for dinner too. If one likes you enough she might take you home and do you for free.
AMSTERDAM RED LIGHT DISTRICT RULES AND WARNINGS
You must keep in mind that the Red Light District in Amsterdam is THE sleazy part of town. Crowds of aggresive immigrant drug dealers will try to sell you drugs. If you don't buy, they may mug you. I am not being paranoid -- this really happens despite the fact that most tourists think Amsterdam is perfectly safe. Never buy drugs from a street dealer. Don't even stop or talk to them, just keep walking. Also, it's wise to avoid the Red Light District in the late hours and early mornings.
The second warning in the Red Light District is DON'T take pictures. If you are noticed a big guy will come out and separate you from your camera. Remember that these women usually lead respectable lives and have parents that care about them. Respect their privacy, respect their choice, and leave the camera in the bag in the Red Light District.
My third warning is that you should only carry enough cash for the transaction. Also, check your passport in at your hotel's safe deposit box and carry a copy instead. When paying for window sex you will be naked and vulnerable. There is virtually no physical danger to you, and it's very unlikely you would be robbed. At the same time you should be ready for anything in Amsterdam, so be prudent.
The last warning about the Red Light District is to be careful what you are buying. There are men who dress like women and work in the windows. Sometimes it's hard to tell that they are men until you get the pants off. Customers who get this big surprise can be traumatized by knowing that a man gave them a blowjob before taking his panties off and proving he's not a she. This problem occurs enough that the Amsterdam police are including a warning about she-male prostitutes in a safety booklet they are producing.
WINDOW GIRLS ELSEWHERE IN OUT OF AMSTERDAM
Again, the Red Light District is the seediest part of Amsterdam and is not totally safe late at night. Further, the best prostitutes are not there. Most or the larger towns in Holland have a red light district. Haarlem has some very nice looking women, and you will avoid the tourist crowd. Alkmaar also has a nice Red Light District as described later.
Within Amsterdam are several smaller red light districts. The best place to go in Amsterdam to pay for sex is a street named Ruysdaelkade, pronounced rise-dale-ka-de. GET BETTER DIRECTIONS HERE. Here you will find the locals looking for sex. The women are better looking and the danger of the big Red Light District is not present, and prices are better.
ALTERNATIVES TO PUBLIC WINDOW SHOPPING IN AMSTERDAM
Window shopping is only one way to pay for lay. Starting with the riskiest sex available I will mention the street hookers again. I always notice these women working behind the Amsterdam Central Station. These are usually heavy drug addicts who choose to work illegally because they can't work legally. If you want risky no-condom paid sex, this is the place to go.
Recently Amsterdam has begun to deal with the problem of street hookers by designating areas for them to work. They set up tents and partitions big enough to drive a car into. The hookers wait for customers who drive up, make their choice, and drive behind the partitions for privacy. The act takes place in the back of the car, and is only marginally safer than going to the back of the train station. I guess this is the ultimate in drive through service, but I still think the window girls are a much safer choice.
ESCORT SERVICES
Amsterdam offers three more choices to pay for sex that I know of. The best and cleanest way to be with a prostitute is to look in the phone book and call an escort service. These agencies will contact a prostitute who matches your desires and send her to your place of choice, be that your house or your hotel room. These girls are the most expensive way to go, but will certainly guarantee a private and more enjoyable experience. The cost much more than the window girls.
Escorts don't actually keep all the money you give them. While your having fun inside there is a driver outside waiting for the escort. He needs to be paid. Then the escort service takes more than half of the fee, leaving the sex worker with about 35-40% of your money. The best setup would be to know an escort directly and hire her without the agency.
BROTHELS AND CASSA ROSA
I don't know where they are, but Amsterdam also has private brothels. You can go inside and order a drink at the bar while you examine the selection of women. Then you choose and go to a private room for sex. This option is better for those who are embarassed by looking for paid sex in public.
The most kinky orgiastic sex to be had in Amsterdam can be found at Cassa Rosa. A tourist I met said that normally you pay a fee to get into a room of people engaged in orgies, voyeurism, gang-bangs, and other multi-partnet experiences. Cassa Rosa also has live sex shows, though the tourist said the performers looked bored. In his words, "I left with my curiosity satisfied and little else."
One night a week at Cassa Rosa men can pay a much higher price to enter a special night where the house brings prostitutes in. In this case you know you can have anyone you want if there's not a line. Of course all the action at Cassa Rosa carries the risk that any multiple partner sex entails. The people you will be screwing have screwed a lot of other people. Think of it like this -- by having sex with one person there you can implicitly have sex with a whole crowd of people. If this turns you on, this is the place for you.
ALKMAAR SHOPPING MALL AND THE STREETS OF LUXEMBOURG
I just want to mention two more prostitute areas I saw to give an idea of what's out there. One night I was driving around with a friend on the coast near Castricum and Egmond an Zee. On our way back to Amsterdam at 1am, my friend said he wanted to drive through Alkmaar, home of a famous cheese market. My friend was not looking for cheese.
This friend always tries to get me to use prostitutes. I'm not sure why he cares, but he was insistent that I should come look at the girls with him. We went into Alkmaar's red light district and found a shopping mall. There were girls in window on one street, and next to that was a doorway into a series of mazelike hallways. Each hall had windows on either side with women selling themselves. I have to say that most of these women looked extremely bored. Some were sitting there ignoring customers and watching TV.
Another time I stayed in Luxembourg City, in the country of Luxembourg between France, Germany, and Belgium. My first stay in Luxembourg was company sponsored, so I stayed in a very nice hotel near downtown. I did not see anything looking like prostitution in this part of town.
The next time I went on my own dollars I chose a cheaper Mercure hotel just up the street from the train station. As it turns out, just next to the hotel, the stripper bar and the police station was the red light district. There were no women in windows in Luxembourg -- instead there is a tolerated street hooker business. Most of these women were nowhere near as beautiful and clean looking as the window girls in Holland. The all looked rather desperate.
Two friends of mine in Luxembourg were taking me on a driving tour at night when we passed in front of my hotel to see this. Men in cars were creating a small traffic jam by driving very slowly while checking out the goods. Again, I did not find any of these women to be attractive, until the three of us saw a hooker with some nice legs. Unfortunately this hooker also had an Adam's Apple and a 5 o'clock shadow!!!
I was just window shopping for curiosity, but if you plan to buy these products, remember the latin phrase "caveat emptor," "buyer beware."
Good luck looking, and please use a condom! You will at least walk away with your curiosity satisfied.